Where are these fake 25R’s being sold? I don’t know.

I received a pile of them from several awesome vapers willing to send them to me. They've been using these batteries for up to months and purchased them from several vendors.

These fakes are often created in one quick batch and dumped on the market. The counterfeiters then disappear before anyone finds out that the batteries are fake.

Identifying the vendors, even if I knew who they were, would be problematic because some will not have the fakes in stock anymore. Any vendors who do will hopefully remove them.

Just as additional info… I purchased a pair of Samsung 25R's from three vendors recently for my performance testing of the 25R (checking if there has been a performance drop over time…there hasn't). All six batteries were genuine and performed as well or better than previous 25R's I have tested.

These vendors were Illumn, IMRBatteries, and Liion Wholesale (in alphabetical order).

There are a large number of other vendors who stock genuine 25R's though! Check my Facebook pinned post for a list of my trusted vendors or speak to your vendor of choice about this issue if you have any concerns.

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Will your fake Samsung 25R battery explode? No.

I recently posted about fake 25R's using rewrapped Samsung 22P batteries which are rated at 10A and 2050mAh. This does not mean that fake 25R's will explode.

Original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/6tlhmi/fake_samsung_25r_alert/

Using these fake 25R's at above 20W-25W each or so will result in lots of voltage sag, short running time, higher operating temperature, and accelerated battery aging and performance loss but it typically takes a short-circuit to cause a battery to burst.

I recommend replacing any fake batteries you might have though. If you must use these fake Samsung 25R's then stay below about 20W-25W each (40W-50W in a 2-battery mod, etc.).

I do not know how hard you can use any other type of fake.

You are responsible for your own safety. I cannot know the condition of every one of these fakes. If the battery runs erratically or more than a bit warm do not use it. Use your best judgement and vape safely. Batteries are inexpensive and not worth taking any unnecessary risks with.

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Thank you Golden State Vapor!!

I recently won a Golden State Vapor Give away. I received credit for 2 X 30ml of my choice, with the coupon code "GSV60" for 60% off. Well I have never tried them before (I have wanted to for a while) and I couldn't make up my mind, so I threw in a little extra cash and picked 4 flavors. Today my <a href="http://www.vapininthecape.com/eliquid_c_7.html”>juice arrived and I was so surprised it looks like they upgraded me to some 60ml!!!! That was so awesome, but then I tasted the Crème Brulee and I realized I made a huge mistake…. I should have ordered 4 120mls of this stuff OMG! It's sooooo good. Once again thanks so much Golden State Vapor, I can't wait to try the rest!!!!!

Check them out they are cool people.. http://www.goldenstatevapor.com/

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Vaping in an outdoor mall?

I just wanted to see what your guys' opinions were for vaping in an outdoor mall. I personally do not do this. If I did I would wait until I was not around a lot of people to take a hit. Over the weekend, my dad (who also vapes) and i went to an outdoor mall. He hit his vape a few times, very few people around, but I was still able to catch some disgusted faces and comments. I told him to try not to vape while we were there cause I felt embarrassed. Thoughts?

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Ammit 25 vs serpent smm: is it just me?

Well I picked up both a serpent smm and not long after an ammit 25. I really enjoy the two tanks but find the ammit much better in the flavor department which surprises me going by the love for that tank here. Am I crazy? Is it my build? Wicking? Using a 1/8" clapton with 6 wraps just shy of 0.4 ohms on the both. Usually run at around 40w.

Given I've been using the ammit more and find it idiot proof which is great for me. May stagger the wicks on the smm more next time around to see if it feeds a little better. Its what I had to do on my avocado 25.

Haven't touched by goon since I picked up these two. Love these new single coil rtas.

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Northland Vapor customer service – good review

ordered some <a href="http://www.vapininthecape.com/eliquid_c_7.html”>juice from these guys, i've been a semi-regular customer for about 6 months. this last order, i got the delivery notification, check the mail, and nada.

so, i e-mail northland. i figured they might at the least be able to help me set up a postal investigation and see if it got lost or mis-delivered. the rep i got, renae, sent me out a whole new shipment. was completely cool about the whole thing and responded quickly to my late night after work e-mails promptly the next morning.

then when my stuff ~magically~ appeared at my doorstep a few days later (thanks whoever) i let them know i'd pay for the stuff they sent to replace it. and they were even cool about letting it slide.

i've been a fan of these guys because the price really works out for me. but this level of customer service was an unexpected bonus. i just wanted to share with you guys my good experience

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Blue Dot Vapors Potentially Non-Genuine Samsung 25r Batteries

Dear Blue Dot Vapors Customers,

It has recently come to our attention that some of the Samsung 25r batteries sold through our site may not be genuine Samsung 25r Cells. We received an email from a concerned customer, and decided to do our own investigation through our supplier and through an independent battery expert. In addition, we immediately suspended the sale of Samsung batteries. Today, we received the test results from our most recent purchase of “Samsung 25r “cells, and unfortunately for us and our customers THESE CELLS ARE NOT GENUINE.

It appears that we have received at least one batch of Re-Wrapped Samsung 22P Cells, which do not have nearly the performance of 25r’s. This represents a significant concern to us and to anyone pushing these cells to their discharge limits. We strive to carry only products that we stand behind, from reputable suppliers and are very disappointed in our supply chain at the moment, and that we have distributed these cells unwittingly to our lovely customers. We have worked with the same two suppliers for Samsung batteries since our hardware section opened, and until now have had no problems with non-genuine products.

As we do not have in house testing results for past batches of these cells, we do not know the full extent of this problem, but for safety sake, are urging our customers to carefully inspect any cells purchased from us in the past six months for authenticity (guide provided below).

As is our general policy, we feel that transparency is the best way to handle this situation and are writing this to inform our customers. If you believe that you have received a non-genuine cell from us, we urge you to cease use of this cell and return it to us for a full refund. It is possible that some orders will be too old to issue a cash refund through our online system and in these cases we will gladly issue a store credit. Please package return cells carefully and return to:

Blue Dot Vapors

738 Wilson Street

Santa Rosa, CA 95401

Please include your order number or full name so we can lookup your account and issue the refund/credit.

Emails/ Correspondence can be sent to: info@bluedotvapors.com

Edit: We've been getting some emails from customers worried that the batteries might explode or are inherently dangerous. We want to clarify that these cells are not inherently dangerous. These cells are rated for 10 amps of continuous use. As an example, if you were vaping a 0.5 ohm coil, at 50 watts, you would be using the battery at 10 amps. It would be perfectly safe. If you went with a lower Ohm coil and/or increased the wattage of your device, you would risk damaging the cell and potentially dangerous venting.

Many users vape at fairly low wattages and higher ohm devices, and are at less risk. Regardless, we are fully willing to refund any of these cells. We just want to put peoples mind at ease a little.

Here’s what we are going to and what we urge other vendors to do in the future:

1) Require individual batch testing from our suppliers, including a graph that tests our batteries against known genuine Cells.

2) Do our own independent batch testing to confirm our supplier’s tests for each battery purchase.

Again to our customers, we sincerely apologize for this situation, and are taking steps to ensure that this type of thing does not happen in the future. Safety and Authenticity are key to growing the Electronic Cigarette industry and in aiding public perception and acceptance. This situation has been a wakeup call for us, in that we can purchase products from very well reputed suppliers, but even so, as a small company, must take our own direct steps to protect ourselves and our customers from non-genuine products. While not throwing our suppliers directly under the bus, we have contacted them both and provided the results of our testing, and anticipate that they will make significant changes to their battery sales as well. If we receive non-genuine products in the future, we will be able to identify this through independent testing and will alert the public if we feel that they are intentionally misleading us or any other vendors. We urge other vendors to do their own independent testing of their batteries to make sure that they as well have not received 25R’s or any other cells that are not genuine. Thanks for reading and thanks to our dedicated customers, we appreciate you all very much. Special thanks to Mooch for all the great work he has done and continues to do for this community. Everything that you do is helping to build credibility and safety as this industry grows and changes.


How to identify a Non-Genuine Cell as posted by Mooch

But here's how to spot these fake 25R's: – If there are any lines radiating out from the center of the venting disk under the top contact then the battery cannot be a 25R. There are four of these lines in the fakes, spaced at 90° intervals. If you see even one though, as they are hard to spot, the battery cannot be a 25R.

You can see the venting disk without unwrapping the battery but you'll need a bright light source and a magnifier is very helpful.

If you do not see any of these radial lines in the venting disk that does NOT mean that the battery is a genuine 25R. Other fakes might not have the lines.

If there is anything other than a "5" as the second character in the uppermost four-character code on the metal can, near the top, then the battery CANNOT be a genuine 25R. If it is a "2" then it's most likely a rewrapped Samsung 22P. You can see this code through the wrap.

If there are no codes on the metal can then it's a fake 25R. It might still be a Samsung but someone has washed off the codes.

The batch codes on the wrap CANNOT be used alone to detect these fakes as they might be genuine batch codes. The codes for the fakes I have are 2G22 and 2F34, located at the end of the second line of printing on the wrap. I want to say this again…these batch codes might be genuine and cannot be used as the only method to check for authenticity.

There might be other batch codes being used for these fakes. Do not assume that having a batch code other than 2G22 and 2F34 means you have a genuine 25R. Check the venting disk for radial lines.

Visually how to tell: https://imgur.com/a/F2SzC

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Finally Kissed the Dragon Today

Never thought I could be this stupid. Always laughed when other people said they did it and wondered how someone could make that mistake. I was playing Walking Dead Season 3 and took the cap off to drip and forgot about it. Then a little later I wasn't paying attention, grabbed my mod, and kissed a fused clapton dragon. Now I look like I've been sucking on a hot crack pipe.

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Anthony Vapes: Sigelei SnowWolf Vfeng Text Review and Tech Test

Hi All, Anthony Vapes back here with a text review and video link here youtube for my honest review of the Sigelei Snowwolf Vfeng mod. Disclaimer Wise, this product was sent to me for the purpose of this review from healthcabin.net.


The Sigelei Snowwolf Vfeng is a 230 watt dual 18650 mod. It’s available in 3 colors Blue/SS, Yellow/Black, and Black/Gold. It features a large 1.3” color front screen. modes are Power, SS (304, 316, 317), TCR (5 memory spots), Ni200, and Ti.

Manufacturer's Specs:

  • Size:463487mm
  • Main material:Zinc alloy+SS
  • Display:1.30〞TFT color screen
  • Wattage range:10W-230W
  • Temperature range:100℃-300℃/200℉-570℉
  • Voltage input:6.4V-8.4V
  • Voltage output:1.0V-7.5V
  • Max output current:40A
  • battery support: 2*18650
  • modes:POWER/SS(304/316/317)/Til/Ni200/TCR
  • Resistance range:0.05Ω-3.0Ω
  • Coil supporting:Kanthal/Titanium/Ni200/SS(304/316/317)/TCR
  • Charging support (USB):DC 5V/2.5A
  • Support USB charging

Included in box:

  • 1 x Sigelei Snowwolf Vfeng

  • 1 x Manuals and warranty info

(can’t confirm anything else as i got a sample box that was barebones but i assume a USB will come as well)

Pictures and test results

Test Chart: pic

Spreadsheet: pic

Stock Shot Colors: pic

LED: pic

“Off” Screen: pic

GUI 2: pic

Menu: pic

510 pin: pic

GUI 1: pic

Individual battery Monitor: pic

Back of mod: pic

510 Internal View: pic

Soft cell cut off: I’m marking at 3.25. Batts were 3.23 and 3.26 when check battery came on.

Initial Impressions and features

When I first got this mod, I was pretty impressed with the screen. It’s large, colorful, very bright, and has plenty of information that’s not all jammed up. It has a very clean and easy to read UI as well as 2 options. I love the centered 510 pin and wish more mods did it. It felt heavy and well built as well. Not much plastic on this mod at all. It’s practically all metal. The battery door is really nice as is 510 pin. Some asked if it was uncomfortable but i found it a comfortable mod to hold personally. The coloring is excellent. It won’t chip or degrade. There is no rattle in the buttons either. I love the LEDS as well. Overall this mod made a very good first impression on me.

Watt mode Performance

Let’s get into some data. Resistances for this mod’s testing were done at .11, .15, .2 and .56 for the high resistance test. The mod read resistance Live and is accurate. The wattage testing points were max watts (230) 200, 175, 150, 125, 100, 75, 50 and 25. At .11 ohms the mod maxed out at 161 watts due to the amp limit of 38 which is in line with most dual battery mods (usually around 35-40) the rest of the testing it ran between 5 low and in 1 case 10 high, but usually no more than 3 watts high depending on the settings. At the .15 test it maxed out at 192 and ran from 7 watts low to 5 watts high depending on the setting Usually within a few watts though. For the .2 test it maxed out at 167 and ran from 8 watts high to 1 watt low. For the high resistance test of .56 it maxed out at 86 watts and 6.943 volts. For the rest of the testing it was 1-11 watts high. My max wattage overall was 192 so it does fall short of the 230 promisied. It’s possible it could pass the 200 mark with a .17 build. Overall i’d consider this a 200 watt mod which is good enough for me from a dual battery mod, but not the 230 as stated. The max amps (38) is right in line with most dual battery mods and close enough to the 40 advertised to satisfy the rating in my opinion. The 6.943 volts which falls a little short of the 7.5 spec but close enough IMO and in line with most dual battery mods. Adjusting the mod under 100 watts was a bit of a pain. It does .1 increments and when you hold it, it pauses for a second then shoots up really fast. The mod never got hot, it got a little warm at max wattage testing but overall one of the cooler running mods out there. The output was smooth and consistent. Overall I find this to be a solid performer in power mode the performs as good as or better then many dual battery mods.

Temperature Control

Using SS316 wire in SS316 mode, I tested 6 builds ranging from single round spaced single and dual coils, to fancy single and fancy dual coils. While it did provide me a good vape at times, overall I found the mod to be way too inconsistent. Every atomizer i put on it was an adventure. Even switching back to ones that worked ok wound up not working ok after. It’s pretty hit and miss IMO. it did throttle well some of the time, but other times was pulsey. Ramp up was ok but you can’t select your wattage in temp mode, which is kinda a pet peeve of mine. Overall due to the inconsistent nature of the mod in temp control i’m going to give it a fail. I wouldn’t personally bother with temp control on this mod

Other Usage Notes

The mod features a very nice menu system. It’s a “3 click” to go into the menu and it’s all laid out very good. Very similar to that of the ijoy menu system. It works very well and is simple to use and learn. It has 2 GUI options which is a cool feature and plenty of info on them. Pressing up and fire will show you the individual battery voltages. A great feature that only sigelei seems to do for some reason. Pressing down and fire will lock adjustment buttons but you can still fire. 5 clicks turns the device on and off. Pressing both up and down locks resistance for temp mode only and does nothing for power mode. No preheat option on this mod which was a curious feature to leave out as many sigelei mods have that, but usually the snowwolf one’s don’t.

Overall Impressions

Overall i was pretty impressed with this mod. I love the looks and style of it. The build quality is excellent and it should be quite durable. It has an excellent 510 pin. It reads resistance accurate and has plenty of depth for any atomizer. It’s centered and can do 29mm with no overhang. A 30mm will overhang a very small amount on the backside only due to a slanted to, but won’t overhang the mod as a whole. I love the LED options but if you don’t you can disable them.


  • Large Bright Color Screen
  • Watt mode Performance
  • LED lights
  • Excellent quality 510 pin
  • Looks and style
  • Build Quality and color
  • Simple and easy to use menu system
  • Centered 510 pin (29mm no flush, 30mm looks ok still)


  • Temp mode Performance


So with all that said, do I recommend this mod? 1st of I want to say as always i’m an open book and will be upfront with you guys. I’ve used this mod for 12 days now so I don’t want to full on give it my recommendation, but with the lack of info out on this mod, I felt it was important to test it and get some good info out there for people looking. I will say all signs do point to yes currently as a watt mode mod, however it’ll be a no for temp mode mods. I will continue to use this mod for another 2-3 weeks in the effort of being thorough and after that point, will likely be adding it to my sheet as a watt mode mod. I can’t foresee any issues personally in the next 2-3 weeks but again, I want to be thorough and will update this review at that point as well. If you were interested in this mod, I think you will be happy personally with it as i really like this mod myself.

For good recommendations feel free to check out my google sheet of recommendations located here googlesheet this sheet will be updated regularly so feel free to bookmark it. It has 3 tabs one for <a href="http://www.vapininthecape.com/eliquid_c_7.html”>juice, one for mods, and 1 for attys

Again I want to thank healhcabin.net for providing me this mod for review. Link to the product is <a href="http://www.healthcabin.net/sigelei-snowwolf-vfeng-230w-box-mod-p/14763.html”>here They are currently running a sale of 20% off sitewide with coupon code school bringing the price to just under 64 bucks which puts it cheaper then anyhting i see on vapecrawler currently. Not sure how long the sale will last though but i just checked this morning and it’s still active. They have the yellow in stock, black and blue on pre-order, and it comes with a hat and shirt lol

I want to thank you guys for reading (or watching or both).

Tomorrow on reddit and my channel i’ll be posting up a review of the Hcigar VT250s. And on wednesday I’ll be on my channel posting an info video on flavor and clouds as well as issuing a warning on the wismec RX gen 3 that the 510 is still not fixed and is a bad one as well. I felt it was important to push up my “friday” info video to wednesday to issue that warning on the mod as it seems many reviewers don’t have the knowledge or cojones to speak up about it. I will have a formal review for the mod ASAP where i’ll explain it in further detail.

Also if you missed my last few reviews

SOI Subzero X Hybrid Mech and RDA <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/6sfck5/anthony_vapes_soi_subzero_x_mod_and_subzero_x_rda/?st=j6cfok4r&sh=5c22ea25″>SOI

Aspire NX 100 NX100

Vaporesso Tarot Pro 160 mod <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/6qxsvi/anthony_vapes_vaporesso_tarot_pro_160_mod_text/?st=j62cdr84&sh=64296e72″>tarot

Laismo Wyvern 235 mod – <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/6qpu4g/anthony_vapes_laismo_wyvern_235_mod_text_review/?utm_content=title&utm_medium=user&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=frontpage”>wyvern

Lost vape Drone BF DNA167 mod <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/6pi9cz/anthony_vapes_lost_vape_drone_dna167_bf_mod_text/?st=j5se5kry&sh=4f684969″>drone

Ammit 25 review ammit

Pico 25 kit Review: pico

Azathoth RDA review: azathoth

Minikin review: <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/6kynwr/anthony_vapes_asmodus_minikin_2_text_review_and/?utm_content=title&utm_medium=user&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=frontpage”>minikin

Cuboid Tap: tap

CKS Icon Review: <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/6mfwjs/anthony_vapes_cks_icon_200w_mod_review_and_test/?st=j4zvqtfe&sh=52a930b6″>icon

Vapefly fantasy and fantasy mini review: vapefly

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ManBeaReviews: Vaptio C-II Starter Kit. Back to the Good ol’ "Pen" days!

Hiya ladies and gents! I was sent this C-II kit by Vaptio for the purpose of this review!


So, I've been a little skeptical about all the recent pen kits that have been released recently. I started on an old ego what feels like a lifetime ago and I've always had a somewhat sour opinion towards them since then. I am happy to report how pleasantly wrong my "judged by association" was!

List of Features and Details:

  • 88mm tall x 25mm diameter battery tube
  • 3000mah battery capacity
  • Direct-power of 30w-100w depending on coil resistance
  • About 4 hours to fully charge


Once again, here we are going over the least important aspect. The box it rides in on. Standard configuration. Product photo on the front, list of contents on the back, large warnings all over the place. Box is sturdy, well packed, and properly protected.


Per the list of contents, the kit includes:

  • C-II battery tube
  • USB Cord
  • 2 0.25ohm Kanthal coils
  • Instructions for both the battery and the tank
  • Quality Control card

Upon opening, the finish on the C-II looked way better than I expected. The battery/tube itself has a rubber-ish coating that gives a good grip and feel in the hand. The finish on the tank matches very well and also has a somewhat textured feel to it.

I am ALWAYS a fan of seeing QC cards to show they went that extra step to assure you are getting a good product from the factory.

The coils each come individually wrapped. Upon inspection, I didn't have an opinion either way based on visual alone. Trying to be objective, I would let the performance do the talking.

C-II Tank, Coil, and Filling

The C-II battery tube comes with a standard, recessed, self-adjusting 510 connection. Pretty much exactly what I expected. The C-II tank threads on and off nicely, as do other atomizers.

The tank itself has a unique feature, which I cannot really say I have seen elsewhere. After unscrewing the top-fill cap, there is a rubber disc that comes from around the chimney and extends all the way to the glass. This disc is there to prevent spilling if you tip the tank while filling it up! It actually works perfectly and is not a nuisance to use with a dropper. Short, needle-nose Unicorns have a slightly more difficult time getting down below the rubber disc, but you eventually get the hang of it. As for the top cap lid itself, it cleverly activates/deactivates the <a href="http://www.vapininthecape.com/eliquid_c_7.html”>juice control depending on which way you are turning the cap. Threading the cap off closes <a href="http://www.vapininthecape.com/eliquid_c_7.html”>juice control, threading the cap on opens the <a href="http://www.vapininthecape.com/eliquid_c_7.html”>juice control.

I primed the coil, filled the tank, then popped her on the Coil Master to find that the coil rating was accurate as it read 0.28 and was advertised as 0.25. Well within my allowable tolerance. After a few fires from the Coil Master tab, the resistance stayed consistent and true with no fluctuation whatsoever.

Features and Operation:

Given the C-II is only a direct-voltage device, you will only find a power/fire button and a USB port for charging. Standard 5 clicks for on and off. The C-II also features an LED light that illuminates around the fire button and USB port while in use. Definitely adds a bit of aesthetic class to the device!

As my first go, I obviously used the included 0.25ohm coil and ran Naked 100's "Very Berry" as it is a flavor I am quite familiar with to get a good baseline. The first few puffs came off slightly weak, but then it seemed to start wicking properly. Around puffs 4-5, the vapor production picked up a little bit and the flavor intensified. Overall, the flavor was what it should be, nothing more and nothing less. This is just a statement that it met my expectations of what a pre-made coil should do but did not fall short or exceed said expectations. If that makes sense! The coils, after going through 2 of them, seem to have an average life-span of about 40-50mL of <a href="http://www.vapininthecape.com/eliquid_c_7.html”>juice, depending on sweetness.

The battery chugged along for a good 5-6 tank fulls of <a href="http://www.vapininthecape.com/eliquid_c_7.html”>juice. It did take just a hair over 4 hours to charge back up, and seems to be hovering right around the 4hr-15min mark to charge.

Upon further use of putting the device up and down, I discovered it has an "auto-off" feature. After about 5-10 minutes of inactivity, the device shuts itself off and requires 5 clicks to turn back on. To me, this is INCREDIBLY annoying. It is not a welcome feature although I assume it is intended to prolong battery life. All it did for me was make me do 5 clicks every time I picked it back up or pulled it out of my pocket.


I like the C-II as it is a form factor I have not visited in a while on something regulated. It is very pocketable, incredibly easy to operate, and is very user-friendly. The plug-n-play coils work well enough to please anyone from a new user to the seasoned veteran. I think this is a fantastic starter kit and good option for those seeking pocket-friendly portability.

The auto-off is really annoying at first, but you'll eventually get used to it. For lots of people, this is probably a great feature. For me, not so much.


  • Comfortable form factor
  • Very portable
  • Good battery life and size
  • Spill-proof tank, even when open and filling
  • Sturdy construction


  • Auto-off feature is ANNOYING & cumbersome
  • Tank capacity is a little low, but the size suits the device
  • No lock feature other than power on and off

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